. >> yeah, it's the law that clinton signed in '96, and it's the kind of thing where we get continuation of cobra, you can continue to have coverage from a group plan and all of that when insurance companies are trying to look for that hacking cough you had once in fourth grade as a preexisting condition. you get out into the market and the insurance companies don't want to cover you, so they look for every possible excuse to not include you, and that's where people have so much trouble. what we need is the solution that will kick in january 1st of 2014, which is that everybody has to be covered regardless of preexisting conditions. >> stephanie: see, jacki schechner helper health care advocate, and when you talk about hacking coughs in fourth grade, i bet ya road flair mary had a hacking cough in fourth grade. >> she started with those candy cigarettes. >> stephanie: yeah. i'm embarrassed to admit this but i asked if there was any tape of my dad debating hubert humpfy in 1964 -- >> wow. >> that would be really cool. it would be that older black and white news reel sort of footage. >> st